Mixing Artificial Intelligence with Marketing Automation. An Interview with CEO of Automizy.

We talked with Gabor Koncz, CEO of Automizy and Viktor Egri, CMO of Automizy to get a better understanding of how the company started, where it’s headed, and more info on how they are incorporating artificial intelligence into their marketing automation platform.

Describe your product in 100 words or less.

Automizy is designed for SaaS applications to automate their email communication with their prospects and users to save time and grow rapidly.

Marketers can easily automate emails based on users’ in-app activities or how prospects engage with marketing emails.

This solution provides an intuitive, visual drip campaign editor for automation and highly targetable bulk email sending feature with in-depth statistics.

Automizy gives SaaS companies a head start by developing smart features like drip campaign optimization that will automatically improve the conversion rate of drip campaigns.

How did you end up starting Automizy and what is your driving purpose behind its growth?

The core team of Automizy started Protopmail email marketing SaaS 10+ years ago. Protopmail currently serves the most of Fortune 500 companies in Hungary. I’m an email marketing and marketing automation consultant at some of these big companies.

In 2015 the core team was looking for further challenges because the market was small for the company. We created a spin-off project called Automizy.

The initial idea was this: We believe that marketing automation will be the next big thing related to email marketing where our team had experience. There were plenty of high-end marketing automation tools, but only a very small number of companies used them, because without having a black belt marketing rock star there is no chance to use them. So we decided to create a simple MA tool for the rest of the world: The world’s easiest marketing automation platform.

And we did a lot of customer development, coding, customer development, coding, customer development, coding over and over and over again…  Then we pivoted and Automizy became more specific: The only marketing automation solution built especially for SaaS companies.

This pivot was an easy decision after tons of customer development: we just have to teach the process how we became the market leader in our country with an SaaS and we have to develop a specific tool that will help our customers to build such a successful business as we did.

We strongly believe that there is no secret to the success, but a price: An overnight success takes 5 years of hard working. In addition, we believe in simplicity, smart solutions and especially in startups.

What is something interesting about you or Automizy most people don’t know?

We just released our artificial intelligence aided optimization feature that helps marketers do high volume of A/B/N testing in their drip campaigns. Why?

As Tim Chard, marketing director of AdEspresso said about it:

”So much of what marketers do in automation workflows is a slight step up from manual labor – it’s “clicking”. And this “clicking” could save us all a ton of time if it was replaced by smarter AI. Clicking the “winner” in an A/B test. Clicking on a set of dates to test. Clicking on a “pop up” or a “slide in”. I want AI to take away all my clicking for me, and handle all the testing that goes along with it.”

Artificial Intelligence has lots of applications in martech but in this special case it performs the repetitive, manual tasks of continuous optimization in drip campaigns. Less click and more time for creative tasks for marketers.

So how does it work?

As a first step, you can set up conversion goals for every drip campaign you have. You can choose events like form submission, any in-app activity, email open or click. As a result, Automizy will be able to automatically stop a contact on a drip campaign when the conversion goal is reached (if you decide). No If/Else condition is needed that complicates your job.

Based on this approach, we just released a drip campaign optimization feature too (still in closed beta). You can easily set up A/B/N tests for your emails in a drip campaign. Our algorithm will continuously test and learn which the better performing email version is (based on the goal you set previously). Not only it tests emails separately but will optimize the whole workflow for higher conversion rate by sending the better performing chain of emails.

Douglass Karr from Marketing TechBlog tweeted this to our question on how artificial intelligence could be used in marketing automation: “Most marketers test manually… imagine several iterations automatically populating and optimizing in real-time. Exciting stuff!”

While other tools on the market require manual intervention from you to track your AB tests, change the sending weights, interpret data – Automizy does all of this automatically by harnessing the power of Mizy (the name of our multi-armed bandit algorithm). Set up your email variations and Mizy will automatically do the optimization part for you!

What are 3 blogs you follow and why?

  1. Sixteen Ventures
    Lincoln Murphy has a tremendous knowledge on the growth of a SaaS business. He doesn’t complicate the picture with vague ideas but always focuses on the most important metrics and questions. I think everyone should read his blog to build a growth engine.
  2. GrooveHQ
    I don’t think I need to introduce GrooveHQ and their fantastic content marketing journey. They not only provide awesome, actionable information but they do it in a very special, unique way: they share their own story. What to expect: hard data, easy-to-consume and valuable contents, actionable insights.
  3. Unbounce
    Unbounce blog is generally a great place to go and gather insights. But what I truly like is their Landing Page Example category. Not only you will see how other companies do lead generation with landing pages but you will also see what the mistakes they make!

Name 1 thing that has worked really well for Automizy in acquiring new customers.

We wrote a guide on product marketing that has 10k+ words.

Firstly we wanted to share it as an ebook on an Unbounce landing page that asks for contact information in return. But then we decided to try another way: we just posted it on our blog page and offered the possibility to downloaded it as a pdf if someone preferred to save it for later.

Not only our landing page has 60.19% conversion rate but it generated high-quality leads and (with a little email nurturing) users too. And brought in new customers too in the end of the day.

It’s because we let people decide whether they want to give us their contact information or not. We gave value to people who were not at the right decision stage – because they could read it without downloading anything. The other set of people were highly engaged prospects who were actually looking for some kind of solution.

Name 1 thing that you tried with Automizy but soon noticed it did not turn out the way you expected. What has not worked out so far in regards to sales and/or marketing?

Boosting facebook posts was a complete fail. It was expensive and did not bring the results we were looking for: few blog page visitors, few leads and no users at all.

Our reach was very low and people didn’t respond as we expected. We had likes on the posts but only a small percent of people actually went to our blog page.

We don’t know yet what was the problem: the targeting, the creative, our message… or maybe the channel itself is not a good fit.

Is Automizy Bootstrapped or Funded? What made you make this decision?

Bootstrapped. As a founder and CEO in the first phase of scaling, I plan to invest most of my personal savings to Automizy. We will first time think about raising money from VCs just after that, in the high growing phase. I’m really not against VCs, I just think that more than enough money on our bank account could make us lazy. The pressure that we have to make money from customers strictly hold us on track. We have no time to waste or develop features that nobody would pay for.

We already got some request for discussion from various European VCs, but we refused all of them: it would be too early to raise money in this phase.

What are your future goals or plans for Automizy?

In short term the main goal is to reach the real product/market fit and $50K MRR. In the long run our main goal is to become the world’s #1 marketing automation tool for SaaS companies.


Proper SaaS Marketing Distribution

The Steps to Follow for Proper SaaS Marketing Distribution

It doesn’t matter how great your product is, or how much effort you put into marketing it with excellent content. Proper SaaS marketing content distribution is a non-negotiable component of every successful campaign. If your marketing efforts aren’t in front of the right audience, you might as well be lighting money on fire.

Don’t spend your time curating excellent content only to let it go to waste. These three steps can help your marketing efforts land in front of eager customers.

Know Your Ideal Customer

A business offering trendy bikinis probably wouldn’t find much interest in a rural retirement home. And the Girl Scouts don’t go to diabetes conferences to sell cookies. Knowing your ideal customer is marketing 101, but it’s easy for this goal — and the actions that support it — to be obscured in the hodgepodge that is the Internet.

If you throw a post on a random blog, hope that it generates interest, and never follow up or act upon the customer information you receive, you’re no different from the Girl Scout trying to sell cookies at a diabetes conference.

Put simply: you’re wasting effort and money, and may even be undermining your brand.

If you don’t yet know who or what your ideal customer is, it’s time to get focused. A few questions that can help you accomplish this include:

  • For whom is my product most useful? Am I more likely to find an audience among small startups, international conglomerates, or aspiring business owners?
  • Who has previously purchased my products?
  • What feedback do customers give me? You can learn a lot from customer complaints. You can learn even more from repeat customers. Who keeps coming back for more? They’re probably your target client base.
  • When do people most often buy from you, and where? You can learn a lot about your ideal customer by looking at referrals, search engine analytics, and the effectiveness of advertising campaigns.
  • Is there a specific time of year during which sales peak? You might have a seasonal product, or you might be accidentally stumbling upon an effective advertising strategy only at certain times of the year.

Offer Quality, Focused Content

Content is only the beginning of a SaaS marketing distribution strategy. For the expense of content to really be worth your while, you need high-quality content that offers value to your target market.

So what does that look like? A few pointers:

  • Your content should be professional and polished. Don’t just stuff an assortment of keywords into a few disjointed paragraphs and hope for the best. Low-quality content can actually harm your image, so if you’re not willing to invest in quality content, you might be better off skipping content marketing altogether.
  • Your content should cover topics that will be interesting and useful to your readers. This means you must sound authoritative, and if you’re not an authority on the topic at hand, you may need to hire an authority.
  • Don’t just try to sell a product. Too often, SaaS businesses grow fixated on highlighting the features of their product or brand. This is akin to expecting a customer to skip a television show in favor of watching commercials. No one wants to read ad copy.
  • Cover topics specific to your niche. Customized content can further polish your brand’s image, so consider investing in content targeted to each of your ideal demographics. Consumer feedback and engagement can tell you a lot about how best to customize your content.
  • Distribute your content to marketing channels specific to each piece of content. For example, a piece about fashion has little place on a business blog but is an ideal fit for a fashion site.

Utilize Diverse Marketing Channels

Distribution channels fall roughly into three categories:

  1. Owned distribution channels: These are your distribution channels, including your website, blog, LinkedIn, Twitter, Facebook, and social media pages. These channels tend to attract people who are already interested in your brand, though you can also drive traffic to these channels with clever ads, free products, and compelling content.
  2. Earned distribution channels: These channels are those you must earn access to with compelling content or an impressive reputation. They include web and print journalism websites, as well as popular blogs that allow you to write guest posts. These channels increase your credibility, and can drive traffic to your owned distribution channels. Earned distribution channels are often the most valuable, since they provide an imprimatur of credibility and authority that you can’t get from paid or owned networks.
  3. Paid distribution channels: Paid distribution channels include social media ads, sponsored blog posts, and all other forms of paid content marketing. These channels offer great flexibility, since you can tailor your content to a specific market. However, they alone are not sufficient to market your product, since customers are increasingly suspicious of paid outlets.

To maximize your visibility, appeal to more customers, and increase access to new business, you need to provide content across all three channels. Don’t repeat content across channels, or you’re wasting valuable space. Instead, custom tailor content to each channel.

Posts on your owned channels are an ideal opportunity to debut new products, feature promotions, and sponsor contests. Earned distribution channels provide a place to link back to your products and increase your credibility. Paid distribution channels allow you to target customers searching for services similar to yours, but can also be used to market useful content that highlights your product or brand. Make use of all three and watch interest soar.


How to Leverage a Community to Boost Your Product

If you walked by a group of people holding up signs that said “We Love Your Web Tools” would you stop and talk to them, or just keep walking?

In essence, when you are selling a web tool, or SaaS product, but browse past digital marketing communities, you are doing exactly this. It can’t make that much of a difference, can it? In short, YES, hell yes!

The biggest reason I see as to why people walk by, is because they don’t know quite how to leverage a community to boost their product.

It’s hard, I don’t know what to say, I won’t be authentic, I don’t have the time, or It won’t work. These are a few of the silly excuses that come to mind. But what if I can help you bypass all of those excuses, and learn how to effectively leverage a community to improve your product, sales, and loyalty?

It might sound like a big feat, but I’m certain I can do it. Let’s get started.

Making Communities Work For You

To start with, choose a community that works for your topics. For instance, if you enjoy topics on SaaS growth, marketing, customer success, product, sales, and business, SaaS.Community is a great place to find others who are also dedicated to the SaaS industry. It’s a small community but the quality is top-shelf.

To find other communities, search Google for forums with your topic of interest.

Next, you have to do the boring stuff: sign up, fill out your profile (you do want people to know who you are, right?), set up notifications, read the rules, etc.

Jump In: I don’t care what the topic is, start reading, responding, and initiating new discussions. You can only reap what you sow in a community.

Let me share a few secrets here:

  • It’s super easy to read something and leave a comment, everyone who views that thread will see your comment. And after awhile, they’ll recognize you, too.
  • Just pick a topic and start responding, ANY topic will do.
  • Not every post you start will be successful. I started hundreds as a community manager and several of them petered out unsuccessfully, just keep trying. 
  • Get into the habit of checking the community regularly, commenting regularly, and reading what others contribute (their comments, to start conversation). You respond to them, they are likely to respond to you (and this builds relationships and trust).

Participate Regularly: It sounds crazy, but this is a place to get exposure and it works amazingly well. During my time at Inbound, I had several people seek me for side projects, and I heard from the most active members, they had the same responses.

Give, Give, Give: Contributing will ultimately lead to your success in the community. Write content to share on the site, bring in links that you especially liked, share expertise when there is no immediate reward. Think karma, the more you put out into the world, the more that will come back to you, in a community it always does.

Monitor Topics: Many communities offer the opportunity to get notifications about certain topics, this saves you from needing to read through all topics on the site.

Follow Experts: You’ll know when there are popular threads you can contribute to, the expert will attract a lot of attention and you can get more exposure.

Share Content Under Your Expertise: This shows others you know what you are talking about, know where to find the best content in your industry and can talk about important topics.

Optional: Start Your Own Group: Start your own group like Joel Klettke, who started The Pit on People submit their landing pages for reviews from other conversion experts.

Each community will have its own ways to gain exposure, but you must start by being active, and helping others, the rest will come in its own time.

Community Members Who Make Community Work For Their Companies

Brittany Berger is the Content Manager behind Mention, a social media alert tool that tells you when your name or company has been ‘mentioned’ on social media, blogs, the internet at large, or community sites.

Brittany is an active member on, a community that allows marketers to connect to share their favorite content. Because she is active on Inbound, her content links (not all to Mention), discussions, and comments on the site are popular. Her threads are usually upvoted to the homepage, and she is able to bring traffic back to Mention when she does submit their blog posts.

What you can learn from her: Be active regularly, and you’ll build followers who help share your content.

Patrick Coombe is the CEO at Elite Strategies and specializes in SEO. He is one of the most active members on, where he shares his experiences in owning an agency and helping people with SEO.

Patrick rarely shares Elite Strategies’ blog posts, but he still has quite the following due to his participation, and I know several marketers who have connected with him because of his activity at Inbound.

What you can learn from Patrick: Show off your expertise by answering questions, following specific topics (like SEO) and making yourself approachable.

Eric Willis is the #1 hunter at Product Hunt, a site where new tools and apps are shared daily. He is active on PH and Growth Hackers, and because he was a regular I grew to acknowledge his expertise in web apps, and growth.

But I’m not the only one, he has thousands of followers on Twitter and PH. Last year he was even writing a book called the Product Hunt effect. By just being an active community member, he’s grown a reputation and is often approached to submit new tools. Having submitted over 900 items to PH, he’s sure to have affected many companies.

What you can learn from Eric: Being active leads to opportunity. You might not know what opportunities will come along, but they will, like writing a book.

Elvis Malkic was a new member on when I first welcomed him to the site. Over time he grew highly active, and posted original content as discussion. Tim Soulo, of Ahrefs, saw what Elvis was doing and eventually hired him to write for their blog. Elvis was quickly seen as an SEO expert and made connections that grew his exposure throughout our industry.

What you can learn from Elvis: Leverage the opportunities you have in a community. Start by helping others, then use the platform as a place to further launch your career. The right people will see you.


If you can talk intelligently about your product and industry, a community is a great place to show off expertise, meet others and earn more sales for your business. But it all comes from behaving altruistically. You must be active and help others. Overtime you’ll see the fruit of your labor, and it should be very sweet.